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| Sophia "is" by David Hayward (aka nakedpastor) |
One year ago today, I told the story of my experience at
Mars Hill. I did so from a place of
confusion, vulnerability and fear. I did
not understand what had happened or why, and I was not quite sure what I was
supposed to do with that experience.
Up until that point, my church experiences had been pretty
positive. It was the thing I centered my life around, the place I made my
friends, where I found purpose and meaning for my own life.
Today, as I reflect on my experience I see that in
comparison to many others (Andrew, Erin, Kip, Paul & Jonna Petry), I was fortunate. I
left quickly, and managed to avoid church discipline (because we refused to
meet with leaders). I understand why some might think that I have an ax to
grind, that I am "bitter", or that perhaps I am making a bigger deal than
need be made.
If that was the end of my story, I might agree. It is not.
My experience at Mars Hill and the loss of the friends I
made was confusing and painful. I did not understand how Christian people could
treat each other that way. Or how the hunger for power could overshadow
friendship. I did not understand how people could cut friends out of their life
for no good reason. And for a while, I believed that it was one bad experience
and that I should just put it behind me. That is what I intended to do.
When my now good friend, Andrew, told his story, I realized
that things were much worse than I had imagined. I received story after story
similar to his. As if those stories were not enough, the thing that really did
me in was the comments I received and the attack on my personal character and
questioning of my salvation. Have you ever been called Satan first thing in the
morning?
My Mars Hill experience was the first domino in a series of
events that began the deconstruction of my faith. For someone who had a blind
faith, the deluge of questions was alarming. What did I believe? What could I
no longer believe? How do I get over the wall (see Stages of Faith)?
Why isn't this working for me anymore? If God is good, and all powerful, why
doesn't He take control?
There have been so many losses. How do I begin to recover? I
must name them and grieve them.
I have lost my "rose-colored glasses".
I have lost the belief that Christians play by a certain
set of "rules".
I have lost my sense of certainty about theology.
I have lost the feeling of belonging as an insider.
I have lost trust in leadership and become suspicious.
I have lost my desire to be in formal ministry of any kind.
I have lost my desire to attend church.
I have lost respect for an entire set of theological
beliefs.
I have lost the belief that church friends will stick by me
no matter where I am in my walk, and not judge me.
I have lost black and white thinking and the surety of
absolute truth.
I have lost the feeling of being truly known by friends and
feeling the freedom to just be me, whoever that is, today.
I have lost community.
I have lost my place of refuge.
I believe
that acknowledging our losses is not enough. What have I gained? When I sift
through the ashes, what beauty do I find?
I have gained an "underground railroad" of
sorts...people who have been or are on this journey who understand me and are
safe.
I have gained respect for other theological viewpoints.
I have realized that we are all wanderers, and that nobody
knows all the answers.
I have gained confidence in my ability to discern the
guiding of the Holy Spirit just as well as any leader, elder or pastor.
I have gained compassion for those that consider themselves
outsiders and unaccepted by the church.
I have gained new perspective on political and social
issues, such as women's issues, gay rights...and that to be Christian does not
mean you must be a republican.
I have gained friendships with people whom I may not have
become friends with (and would have previously judged)...and my life is richer
for it.
I have gained respect for my own opinion and feelings, even
if someone whom I want to validate them, won't.
I have realized that being a part of Christian Culture is
much, much different than following Jesus....and I have chosen the latter,
whatever that may look like and whatever it may cost.
I have gained unity in my marriage and the connection of
having a shared viewpoint and experience.
I have gained the conviction that women should be free to
use their spiritual gifts and be treated EQUALLY
in the church...even if lots of people don't agree.
I have gained the empowerment to teach my daughter that she
can do anything, and that God is not limiting her simply because she is female.
I believe that God is with me, in the depths.
I believe that He LOVES...more
than I can fathom, in ways I cannot describe.
His GRACE is
boundless, infinite and for all.
I believe that He wants us to be FREE. Not just from sin and death. From religion and
guilt. From trying to live up to others expectations or rules.
I have learned that I am STRONG.
I have learned that I am BRAVE.
I
like myself so, so much more now.
So as I reflect today, I
realize that Mars Hill was The Best-Worst Thing That Ever Happened To Me.
I am finally grateful. I
would not give it back and I would not go back to not knowing. It was a
catalyst to becoming a person I actually want to be. I am more compassionate
and empathetic, I am less judgmental, and I am most definitely more loving. If
that is what it took, today, I can say I am grateful.

This is beautiful, Pam.
ReplyDeleteYou have a beautiful soul.
Your friendship has been one of the greatest things to happen to me since my own experience with Mars Hell began.Though I have arrived at a different destination than you, I can still appreciate the beauty in where you are, and the validity of beliefs and experience different than my own.
Thank you for your courage and encouragement and bravery and friendship. Thank you for telling your story, and willingness to be vulnerable, and your heart for helping the hurting and speaking out against injustice and abuse.
You are a very gifted writer and wonderful follower of Jesus
ReplyDeleteI am sorry this happened to you, I am not sure exactly what occured but I can tell your soul was hit hard. I am sorry that others destroyed that which you felt comfortable with, but I am glad you have managed to find your own way out.
ReplyDeleteI'm grateful that David Hayward does what he does when it comes to networking people. I cannot say that I share a story like yours, but as I read your original post along with this reflection, I cannot help but sympathize with your pain AND joy. The more I find myself seeking Jesus, the less sure I am about Christianity...but honestly, I'm okay with that. I know He's okay with that. And I want to say thank you for being able to speak truth into this world without letting fear get the best of you. We need this more than ever.
ReplyDeleteYour story is inspiring. I love who you are and so grateful for the unconditional love and acceptance you have shown me. You are the ONE friend I can tell anything to and whether you agree or not, you accept who I am. I truly value you in my life...it means more to me than you will probably ever know.
ReplyDeleteI can't even begin to tell you how much I can relate to this. Sometimes you feel as if you are the only one...I am not alone. Thank you so much for putting this into words. Beautiful Beautiful words.
ReplyDeleteI was a member of a Sovereign Grace Ministries Church for 13 years. I finally got out almost 2 years ago. When I read your post I thought...this is my exact story. This is my life. The same losses and gains so beautifully communicated. I am so thankful that we have been set free!
ReplyDeleteYou have just described so many of us. Love your openness! I live in the Seattle area and am quite aware of Mars Hill.
ReplyDeleteThank you for sharing your story... I am so glad you decided to still follow Him, Jesus. I am so glad your experience didn't make you lose your faith. May God bless you and guide you throughout the journey of your life, and may you find love, kindness and beauty all along the way.
ReplyDelete"I have lost my sense of certainty about theology" - What a blessing. Brene Brown's research has demonstrated that certainty is a huge obstacle to vulnerability (I am half-way through her book, "Daring Greatly"). It prevents us from empathizing. I think we can draw a line from there to certainty keeping us from God's love and from loving each other as we have been commanded to. No wonder there is so much shame and hatred associated with absolutes.
ReplyDeleteI love where you have landed Pam. I love even more where you are taking off to.
~From one free-range believer to another. *heartpalm*
Thank you for sharing. You have made my heart both break and sing.
ReplyDeleteIt is quite amazing that you and I have had exactly the same experience at Mars Hill. God is truly amazing. Thank you for sharing.
ReplyDeleteThe world has changed - Jesus had warned that in the last days many shall have thier love waxed cold and this is happening in many churches today. I am churchburned too but I do not let it take my faith in Jesus. So you are not alone!!
ReplyDeleteAs the wife of an ordained minister I understand your words and they are beautiful. After my husband spending 5 years in graduate school and 2 years as a hospital chaplain he decided he wanted to do pulpit ministry. We worked with 3 churches ....one as interim and 2 fulltime. I witnessed and experienced cruelty and bullying and horribly dirty politics. I too had rose-colored glasses but had a rude awakening of my faith. We left the ministry for years but God does His work even when his children turn their backs and intentionally hurt Him by going or forgetting his teaching for their own selfish needs. We are healing and our faith is returning. Thank you for your wonderful post and for sharing. You have ministered to me.
ReplyDeleteSounds JUST like my story...wow, i am not alone, yet i fear religion and church buidings because of my (worst thing, best experience)Hope to find more who God has helped understand how to teach our children...i feel as if finally, three generations will agree...so glad God showed me this site today...love, hope, faith...Anthony the artist...thank you Yashuah (Jesus) amen amen amen
ReplyDeleteThis too sounds like bits and pieces of MY Story......as of February 2012
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I have forgiven too because they do not know the God of REAL love and hurting people hurt people. The Lord has soooo surrounded me with incredible people who know REAL love that I hardly remember the hell out came out of ;)
The Prince of Peace, is smitten, with me. His very breath taken, by my existence. His mind races and his heart flutters, for me. I am so loved. He adores me. He enjoys conversating with me. His posture will always be turned, toward me. He is my knight in shining armor and I can trust Him. He cares deeply for me and He will always be on my side. He is affectionate, with me. He will always have my back and I, can trust Him. I will find rest in Him. He rests in me. I will release and relax in Him. He finds peace in me and I will experience peace in Him. I am so loved. I am included. I am accepted. I am embraced by Grace. I am embraced by Papa and I am free to be me. ~ Jennifer Gibbs Wilburn
Pam, this is a beautiful declaration of acceptance and gratitude. It will help so many people find the courage to make their way through the wilderness. Thank you.
ReplyDeleteYou, high eternal Trinity, acted as if You were drunk with love, infatuated with Your creature. ...You, Sweetness itself, stooped to join Yourself with our bitterness. You, Splendor, joined Yourself with darkness; You, Wisdom, with foolishness; You, Life with death; You, the Infinite, with us who are finite. What drove You to this?
ReplyDeleteO priceless Love! You showed Your inflamed desire when You ran like a blind and drunk man to the opprobrium of the cross. A blind man can't see, and neither can a drunk man when he is fast drunk. And thus He [Christ] almost like someone dead, blind and drunk, lost Himself for our salvation!"
- Catherine of Sienna
Pam,
ReplyDeleteThanks for having the courage to share your story. I love the name you chose for your blog! I had Brandee read this to me while we were driving into the City the other day. Literally me in tears, and then shouting, "Yes!" Be blessed. Peace & Love.
I am in the ministry, and have been subjected too bad experiences with different churches, I am from South Africa. My general observations is that sometimes people are not respected because a church or a leader becomes too important. We as a church exists for Jesus. Younger leaders or new Believers should be under the supervision of more mature people. We must also regcognise that people may make mistakes. Be led by God's Holy Spirit before joining or leaving a church. I think in general people has undue expectations from churches and this may lead to much dissapiontments. However things happen and this saddens me, but I had much more positive experiences with churches , so the best is to forgive and forget as far as possible and move on and learn from it. I dont know MH but from these articles I think be careful to join also i think you should also not cause a whitchhunt, because this case maybe a one rotten apple in a basket full of good apples. Please dont be bitter there are many good churches world wide but if you want a perfect one dont come to mine because i regularly make mistakes Victor :-):-):-)
ReplyDeleteI am in the ministry, and have been subjected too bad experiences with different churches, I am from South Africa. My general observations is that sometimes people are not respected because a church or a leader becomes too important. We as a church exists for Jesus. Younger leaders or new Believers should be under the supervision of more mature people. We must also regcognise that people may make mistakes. Be led by God's Holy Spirit before joining or leaving a church. I think in general people has undue expectations from churches and this may lead to much dissapiontments. However things happen and this saddens me, but I had much more positive experiences with churches , so the best is to forgive and forget as far as possible and move on and learn from it. I dont know MH but from these articles I think be careful to join also i think you should also not cause a whitchhunt, because this case maybe a one rotten apple in a basket full of good apples. Please dont be bitter there are many good churches world wide but if you want a perfect one dont come to mine because i regularly make mistakes Victor :-):-):-)
ReplyDeleteMy dear sister-in-Christ thank you so much for sharing the story of this part of your journey with the Lord. I have been telling Christian friends for years that God has had me on a life-long journey about how not to run a church. I may be wrong, but I believe you would enjoy the atmosphere of the church my wife and I attend in Baton Rouge. I don't say this as some sort of attempt to get you to come here, but as a way of saying we too have been on a journey. I'm sure by now you have noticed that Jesus was absolutely freeing to the women of his day in the then extremely patriarchal society. We have several women in leadership positions in our church; we have several involved in our counseling ministry which I am involved in, too. And, I have been so blessed by all the men and women and young people in our fellowship that I find it hard to conceive of anything other than the wonderfully freeing interactions fostered by our pastors, elders, deacons, staff, and ministry leaders. Never forget that Christ died for you to give His Life to you to live His Life through you, as you!! You are His unique and wonderfully made Creation; the old man is dead, and the New Man is Alive. Thank you again for sharing your equally heart wrenching and heart warming journey with us.
ReplyDeleteA friend forwarded this to me...Love the blog, love your heart, understand ALL too well your journey. Peace, mercy and grace upon you!!
ReplyDeleteI was so blessed by reading this post. I experienced spiritual abuse while at Liberty University and have experienced the exact same confusion, doubts and questions you posted here, as well as the same kinds of new discoveries of freedom. It's so great to see that I'm not alone in this. It's always encouraging and refreshing to see that there are others like me out there, that have found that (as you stated) "being a part of Christian Culture is much, much different than following Jesus". Thank you for sharing your story.
ReplyDeleteI have never been married to a church although I have listened to ministers in church (none in particular). When I am in the public I tend to notice people (great life lessons) more than anything else. I have listened to Joel Osteen, Joyce Meyers, Hagee (I think that is how to spell his name) and others on tv.
ReplyDeleteYes mankind is fallible which is why the Bible says that when we study we should go to God for guidance and understanding else the Bible will stay a closed book.
Lately I have been watching my facebook newsfeed with great interest because I have noticed that are a lot of people who have left the church and are now seemingly following facebook and other net teachings.
People, that puts you right back into the church (cyber) which means you are once again following mankind instead of God.
The other point I would like to make is that 'the church has not done you wrong'
it is 'fallible mankind'
I was so happy to discover that there were other's out there who were set free like me but then only to discover that some were getting lost being once again led blindly by the blind in their 'new teachings' and by their 'new translated' bibles. You know anything can be called a 'bible' as I recall one of my old bosses called the manual for the computer her 'bible'.
God told me that I was covered by His GRACE and you know this word in the Bible drove me crazy for ages 1 Thess 4:5 'concupiscence' which means do not lust after evil just because you are covered by God's Grace.
If you are being led astray then you should go back to your Bible. Never take mankinds word as gospel because we all make mistakes. There are countless times I've listen to a tv evangelist and heard their errors and only once did I see in a later program where he apologized for it (but then I don't watch daily) and where they have the call in question answer period. Recall how the people after hearing the 'word' preached rushed home afterwards to read the Word of God to see that what they heard was indeed so? Well so should you. When in doubt, check it out. God said He is not a God of confusement and if you are grounded in His teaching you will not be sifted as the grass in the wind.
God gave mankind the churches because some of mankind need them else how would they know God? If you have read your Bibles you have seen God's judgment against the churches so think not that God is not aware. He told me that I must choose between the Old Covenant and the New Covenant. I cannot follow both else I will be judged entirely by the Old. Remember the Old & New Testament are God's legal agreement between Him and mankind and no one writes two agreements where you can pick and choose what you like out of either.
Thank you for sharing. I always wonder about the other side of Mars Hill.
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